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Post by scimjim » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:17 pm

Yep, you need an MOT until it’s VHI (40 if it meets the criteria) and pay for VED until it’s historic class.


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Post by philhoward » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:21 pm

If it's a 1979 car doesn't Historic (free tax) not kick in until 1st April 2020?


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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:29 pm

philhoward wrote:
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If it's a 1979 car doesn't Historic (free tax) not kick in until 1st April 2020?
That was my understanding too?


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Post by scimjim » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:41 pm

Missed that - even though it’s a 78 build, DVLA will only recognise date of registration now, so its eligible for historic VED in the April after the first January that it’s over 40 (as per my post on the first page).


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Post by Jc29cdo » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:38 am

Typical DVLA logic! Bit of a pain that I have to wait until the car is 41 years old and 3 months before I can apply for the free VED.



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Post by Alan SS1 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:54 pm

I got a document through from DVLA / FBHVC fro folk to carry in case the tarffic officer wasn't 'au-fait'

it is a word doc so not sure how it will look?
DVLA statement on declaration with Press Release 23.01.19.docx
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Post by scimjim » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:24 pm

That’s interesting - I must have missed the bit about it no longer being in production to be VHI?

a) was manufactured or registered for the first time at least 40 years previously
b) is of a type no longer in production, and
c) has been historically preserved or maintained in its original state and has not undergone substantial changes in the technical characteristic of its main components.


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Post by chrisgallacher » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:40 pm

scimjim wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:24 pm
That’s interesting - I must have missed the bit about it no longer being in production to be VHI?
Agreed - that's new, surely?

Doesn't affect our cars - but there must be some out there. Early Caterham for example? Morgan? And what's the definition of "type"?


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Post by philhoward » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:10 pm

Morgan?


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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:18 pm

Yes, Morgan was the first name that sprung into my head when I read that....


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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:37 pm

In fact, the last couple of paras are interesting too (in relation to any vehicle, not just Morgans):
There is no requirement, either intended or implied, that at the point a vehicle becomes 40 years old and providing the vehicle has not been substantially changed, for the owner to make a declaration to any statutory body, declaring that the vehicle is a vehicle of historic interest and is therefore no longer required to have a valid MOT certificate.

The Department and DVLA have set up an administrative process (via DVLA form V112 and the equivalent process on-line) which requires at the time of the annual re-licensing of vehicles a declaration that the vehicle is a vehicle of historic interest – in that it has not been substantial modified. This process is in place to help owners of old vehicles that have been substantially modified do not by mistake run them without a valid MOT. The Department has published information about what constitutes a substantial modification in this context and encourages owners who do not know to seek advice.


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Post by chrisgallacher » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:45 pm

I think if I was the owner of a nice, original, pre-1979 Morgan that I had declared MOT-exempt I'd be a bit concerned about that wording in the DfT letter. Assuming it's genuine, which it looks to be.


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Post by scimjim » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:32 pm

Note that it’s not from DVLA or FBHVC - it’s a letter from the DfT to the FBHVC. Given the typos in the last para and the fact that the last two paras contradict each other, I’m a bit suspicious.


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Post by siw1800 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:31 pm

scimjim wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:32 pm
Note that it’s not from DVLA or FBHVC - it’s a letter from the DfT to the FBHVC. Given the typos in the last para and the fact that the last two paras contradict each other, I’m a bit suspicious.
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:32 pm
Note that it’s not from DVLA or FBHVC - it’s a letter from the DfT to the FBHVC. Given the typos in the last para and the fact that the last two paras contradict each other, I’m a bit suspicious.
I don't see a contradiction, I see them saying no mega modded cars are eligible, and they don't want the owners of these cars to think they can claim historic, but the wording is atrocious, and I failed English language O level 5 times, yet can still see it looks like it was written by a ten year old!


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