Short cut short haul - 1 mile in 30mph zone ?

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Post by drcdb15 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:46 am

philhoward wrote:
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Do you have a set?
Nope :lol: I was just wondering about the legality of using skates. They wouldn't be a practical proposition anyway for this particular situation, but I can see some circumstances where they could be viable - a smooth flat road, half a mile push with say 3 or 4 people to provide motive power...

From what I've read about the law on towing and moving cars it seems to me skates would be within the law. I think in my case it won't be economic to do what I planned, and anyway a set of four skates would cost me more than the Shiply quotes, but hey, if you don't ask, etc.


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Post by reliant-reviver » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:06 pm

philhoward wrote:
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Would it fit inside a large (Luton body) van?...

I recall someone moving a Cipher that way.
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Guilty as charged!

Given the distance involved, I would probably just use a rigid bar (provided the brakes work). Although I accept that that is illegal if the car is not road-legal, your call on the risk and repercussions if you get caught out.

Shiply quotes entirely justifiable given you are paying for someone's time to get to you, do the job and head off again!

Maybe join a local Facebook classic / modified car group. Someone will know someone with a beavertail who'll do it for beer money.


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Post by willholderogri » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:14 pm

I used an a frame for 15 miles at just under 30 inc dual carriageway (one SE5A behind the other ) POLICE NEVER GAVE ME A SECOND LOOK (on tow sign in the back of the rear SE5A)


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Post by cannonball » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:52 pm

I recently rented a 3.5 ton beaver tail recovery vehicle something like this http://www.transporterhire.co.uk/ for my escapade, cost me £106 for 24 hours plus fuel. You could always have a look on e bay or Gumtree as there are guys advertising there.



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Post by drcdb15 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:26 pm

willholderogri wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:14 pm
I used an a frame for 15 miles at just under 30 inc dual carriageway (one SE5A behind the other ) POLICE NEVER GAVE ME A SECOND LOOK (on tow sign in the back of the rear SE5A)
It's not a Police matter any more, it's DVSA who enforce since 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_an ... rds_Agency


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Post by drcdb15 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:32 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:
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Shiply quotes entirely justifiable given you are paying for someone's time to get to you, do the job and head off again!
I don't disagree. Anyway, original job was to swap 2 cars over, between home drive and remote lock-up. But I was able to get one of them running so revised the job to being just 1 car (SORN, non-runner) to go one way, and re-advertised. Shiply got me 2 quotes at £64 but I found a local firm able to do it for £60. Pro-rata not a lot different to the £100 and odd of the original price, but overall a little easier on the wallet :D


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Post by Geraint SabreGTCse5 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:02 pm

drcdb15 wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:26 pm
willholderogri wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:14 pm
I used an a frame for 15 miles at just under 30 inc dual carriageway (one SE5A behind the other ) POLICE NEVER GAVE ME A SECOND LOOK (on tow sign in the back of the rear SE5A)
It's not a Police matter any more, it's DVSA who enforce since 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_an ... rds_Agency
the Police still have the power to enforce... coming across an officer with the knowledge would be rare but they are out there.


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Post by Alan SS1 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:19 pm

Geraint SabreGTCse5 wrote: coming across an officer with the knowledge would be rare but they are out there.
not quite sure what to make of that comment, is that a damning comment on the knowledge standard of regular bobby or the lack of boots on ground? :roll:


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Post by Geraint SabreGTCse5 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:04 pm

Alan SS1 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:19 pm
Geraint SabreGTCse5 wrote: coming across an officer with the knowledge would be rare but they are out there.
not quite sure what to make of that comment, is that a damning comment on the knowledge standard of regular bobby or the lack of boots on ground? :roll:
depending on a readers political persuasion it could be read and interpreted in a number of ways, Policing is no different in a number of ways to other professions which have specialist departments dealing with the "companies business". It is unrealistic to expect everyone in an organisation to know everything about every area of the business.

Towing legislation would probably fall outside the comfort zone of a "regular bobby" but they would have the ability to consult a specialist department to deal with it. Statistics show that "boots on the ground" is reducing with specialist departments such as road policing or traffic in old money reducing in size significantly.
So the chance of coming across a specialist road policing officer while using an A-Frame would be slim.

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Post by willholderogri » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:05 pm

you can usaually talk your way out of it if you have the right attitude


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Post by Darren C » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:47 pm

upstart8s wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:40 pm
I seem to remember someone suggesting moving large loads on roof bars!!! is this an option? (I still can't use the smilies)
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Guilty as charged..
But with NO roof bars!

Back in the very early 80's I answered a for sale ad in the Exchange & mart for a VW Beetle parts car (floorpan, suspension & body with no doors, bonnet or boot, but sitting on all 4 wheels)
Went to a village called Fovant near Salisbury in a mates old minivan.
Did a deal for £15 and me, mate, seller & his son lifted the beetle onto the roof of the mini van, tied it on with rope (front windows wound down, doors shut, rope across foreheads) then another two ropes front & back secured to bumpers. Good job it was a van as with doors tied shut we could still get in via the back van doors. Drove home with it to Gosport (50+ miles double decker style)
No worries back then when you're a teenager.
In retrospect the minivan wasn't a great choice as the sills had completely rotted out front to back on both sides. We'd duck taped over the holes & thickly undersealed over the tape to hide it, the spline on the steering column was worn from fitting an incorrect steering wheel, so it jumped in your hands to the point we gave up and drove with molegrips instead of a steering wheel.

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