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Post by Corky » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:15 pm

As is an inspection by an authority, but they do encourage peeps to get their house in order.


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Post by derekoss » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:07 pm

Never found many in authority with much more than a jobsworth attitude !! The older experience and skill are retiring leaving book and regulation readers !
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Post by Corky » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:34 pm

That’s the way it is I’m afraid Derek. Regulation is a mine field.


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Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:58 pm

New guidance has been issued here

Of particular interest is the changes from the 8 point rule that DVSA alluded to previously - for example they’ve dropped the bit about a replacement chassis being made only by the original manufacturer:

Chassis (replacements of the same pattern as the original are not considered a substantial change) or Monocoque bodyshell including any sub-frames (replacements of the same pattern as the original are not considered a substantial change);


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Post by Datsundrew » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:26 pm

Jim, what makes you think the chassis replacement had to be the original manufacturer? I replaced my Land Rover chassis with a Richard’s chassis, as Landrover don’t do them, it’s common, and as long as it’s a new replacement of similar construction, it’s fine.



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Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:38 pm

It used to be OEM only Drew. Aftermarket chassis for Lotus and Land Rover etc have been available for years and no-one has questioned it. The regs now say:

Chassis, monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit) or frame - original or new and unmodified (direct from manufacturer)

Which infers OEM still but is no longer explicit.


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Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:39 pm

And it’s not “similar construction” it has to be exactly the same (“unmodified”) - so coil sprung series are technically illegal and always have been.


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Post by Datsundrew » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:48 pm

Yes coils on a series is a big no no, I was told that a new replacement chacchis was just that, and not necessarily from the original manufacturer. I spoke to the dvla after I did mine,no probs as it was new and to original spec, so in reality they weren’t that bothered, in fact not at all.



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Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:01 pm

Yep, that’s been their stance for a while (in fact since SVA came out, as the “manufacturer” is the builder). Obviously not relevant to our cars though and my point was the change in documented policy between VHI and the radically altered vehicle 8 point rule.


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Post by Datsundrew » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:29 pm

Here it is.....original or new and not modified (from the manufacturer ). It doesn’t say original manufacturer though, just manufacturer, so a manufacturer remanufacturing a chassis, is ok the way I read it?
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Post by scimjim » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:02 am

That’s what I quoted 4 posts up :D


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Post by David Tew » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:26 pm

The VHI Guidance seems to change regularly. Regarding chassis, the latest version simply states, " Chassis (replacements of the same pattern as the original are not considered a substantial change)" no mention of the manufacturer at all.

It goes on to say:
The following are considered acceptable (not substantial) changes if they fall into these specific categories:
• changes that are made to preserve a vehicle, which in all cases must be when original type parts are no longer reasonably available;


Probably good news for most of us. I will change my signature accordingly. :D


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Post by scimitargtc » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:54 pm

So the way I read things is my March 1979 6a will become mot exempt in 2019 but not road tax exempt until 2020 am I correct cos if so it’s inconsistent at the very least


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Post by scimjim » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:19 pm

I thought the two were going to be tied together? Do you have a reference to look at?

From the response on the gov.uk site:

“Exempting vehicles over 40 years old is also in line with the current rolling 40 year exemptions from Vehicle Excise Duty, so vehicle owners would be able to apply for VED exemption at the same time as their vehicle becomes exempt from MOT tests.‘


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Post by scimitargtc » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:34 pm

Thought the mot exemption is from May with tax exemption from January 1?


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