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Re: DVLA History Requests

Post by cookieboy » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:02 am

i did the same with my old se5a .not all previous owners could be traced .the last owner told me he traded it in, on the govt scrappage scheme ,and the dealer then put in a auction .my current car .has a whole box file of invoices dating back to the 90s when the car was in devon .


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Researching the history of your vehicle.

Post by monkey » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:53 pm

Hi

Don't know if this is the right section on the forum for this or not as the topic can relate to any car.

It concerns my SE4 that I'll be restoring in the near future. I needed to find out the original colour of the car when it first left the factory, not as easy as it sounds as apparently the chassis number is of no help and the original Reliant build records were lost/destroyed.

My SE4 is currently white, but there are traces of red, and the spare wheel well under the car is (Manhattan) blue. To confuse things further the engine bay appears to be silver streak.

As I have no practically no previous information on the SE4 I decided to apply for the full history from the DVLA. This was relatively easy, all I had to do was fill out form number V888 (the link to the form is here)
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -a-vehicle

The fee was only £5 and they responded within 3 weeks.
The reply I received from the DVLA was very comprehensive with a personalised letter that explained why they only had limited keeper information (basically they only held records as far back to 1974 for my particular vehicle even though it was first registered in 1967)

Prior to 1974 all vehicle registrations (and maintaining ownership records) were the responsibility of the council where the car was registered, in my case Stockport County Council. From 1974 the vehicle records were computerised and centralised to the DVLA, once the information was disclosed by the councils to the DVLA it was up to them if they archived the old record books, or destroyed them.
Some councils did throw away the records (such as London and Glasgow) so it is in the lap of the Gods if you are in luck or not.

I had to find out if the Stockport records were kept, not an easy task as some councils were swallowed up by larger boroughs over the years. I discovered this website which lists the councils that still retain the records, the link is here
http://www.kitheadtrust.org.uk/england_wales2_11.html

From this brilliant site I was able to establish that the records were held by Manchester Archives and Local Studies Dept. A quick phone call later and they confirmed that they did in fact hold the register for my registration number, they could not disclose the details though without a fee of £15.
Monies paid and 2 weeks later I received a certified photocopy of the record book. Guess what, it told me absolutely nothing I didn't already know. The details were Make, Chassis Number, engine capacity and date of first registration. Details of the owner were blank, and no colour had been recorded (don't be put off by this result, when I did the same enquiry with Buckinghamshire council on one of my SP's it did state the first owner).

So I still have no idea of the original colour or first owner. I did establish though from the records DVLA sent that the colour change from red to white was in 1993.
Also in its life time from first being in Stockport the cars been to, Sheffield (1974), Reading (1981), Swindon (1991), Newent (1996), Stonehouse (1997), Tamworth (2007), Romsey (2007), Hinckley (2011) and finally into my possession in 2012.

Could it have been a special order in red (bearing in mind it was registered on Valentines day), or will I discover the true colour when the body gets taken back to the gel coat?
Could anyone confirm if the engine bay was body colour, or were they all sprayed silver?

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Kev M
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Re: Researching the history of your vehicle.

Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:32 pm

V888 has been discussed loads of times but I didn't know that pre 74 local records were still held by councils (certainly didn't get a letter with mine). Engine bay would have been body colour.


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Re: Researching the history of your vehicle.

Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:34 pm

As it's not technical info, probably best to merge with the existing thread here?


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Re: Researching the history of your vehicle.

Post by monkey » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:49 pm

Apologies, being a new boy I hadn't realised it had been covered so comprehensively. I'm still trying to find my way around the site, I have to say that this must be one of the best car forums on the web.

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Re: Researching the history of your vehicle.

Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:03 pm

No dramas - there was new info and a friendly mod will move it :-)


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Re: DVLA History Requests

Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:20 pm

No problem - thread moved'n'merged :)

Actually, even if you had got all the original registration details, it wouldn't necessarily give you a definitive answer. The mulberry car was registered in Feb '79, with the first owner (for a year) being Reliant Motor Co. The registration doc simply states the colour to be "red", which is true, but there are other shades of red as well :roll:


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