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Re: Shooting Brakes

Post by Scimher » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:45 am

scimjim wrote:Possibly - but if you read through the first page, I think the BMW touring and Lancia HPE are the only examples I would question in the shooting brake category (they were probably included because (a) they were marketed in that sector and (b) I remember reading magazine articles that directly compared them to the GTE).

The thread is for cars that "are sporting (hence the allegro estate isn't included :-)) and all share the rear aspect of an estate or shooting brake."
.....I thought the BMW 2002 Touring looked terrible...but always assumed Lancia's HPE stood for High Performance Estate which I thought was what this thread was all about...(either production or 'one-off'... :?: )



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Re: Shooting Brakes

Post by scimjim » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:04 pm

It does, the point I opened for discussion on Fred's post (and intimated in earlier posts in this thread) was, where does a sloped estate roof become a hatchback and vv? We call the GTE rear door a "hatch" but also claim the title of "first mainstream production sporting estate" Is the wheelbase or boot space as important as this angle? Look at the Audi 200 avant for example. Just because the manufacturer calls it a sporting estate, avant, touring or equally GT, GTE, GTC, etc doesn't mean that it is any more. Were the HPE /BMW the first to blur these lines?

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Re: Shooting Brakes

Post by Scimher » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:15 pm

...Yep, I think the wheelbase/boot space is the critical factor, Jim, rather than angles of the back-end....Having said that, the bootspace/wheelbase become rather more critical if there is a pronounced slope, ie. yer Audi Avant. If pretty much vertical then original road dimensions can be got away with, ie. yer BMW 'breadvan' M series..............



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Re: Shooting Brakes

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Re: Shooting Brakes

Post by ScimmyMike » Tue May 26, 2015 7:47 am

A couple of different ones from the weekends Capesthorne show
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Whilst not quite a shooting break it's along similar sort of lines. you don't see many of these about I'll bet
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Re: Shooting Brakes

Post by mn757 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:06 pm

Spotted this on another forum a while ago but forgot to note what it was. GM I think ??. Few shades of GTE in there.... I like it.

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Ford Mustang GT Shooting Brake

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Post by Diabhalta » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:28 am

Bentley EXP Shooting Brake

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Post by Diabhalta » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:30 am

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Re: Shooting Brakes

Post by Mateybass » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:12 am

Scimher wrote:...Yep, I think the wheelbase/boot space is the critical factor, Jim, rather than angles of the back-end....Having said that, the bootspace/wheelbase become rather more critical if there is a pronounced slope, ie. yer Audi Avant. .
There was a lot of room behind the back seats of the Avant and despite the rear slope, there was an option for a further two rearward facing seats in the boot of the Avant. The Avant also had a perfectly flat load deck, which means (and one of the points of having a shooting brake) that you could sit down underneath the open tailgate to take your wellies off... can't do that in a GTE :) :twisted:


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Re: Shooting Brakes

Post by Diabhalta » Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:17 pm

mn757 wrote:Spotted this on another forum a while ago but forgot to note what it was. GM I think ??. Few shades of GTE in there.... I like it.
It's an AMC Eagle ... somebody lowered it and lowered it a lot :-) ... it's an offroad car..

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Re: Shooting Brakes

Post by scimjim » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:06 pm

Love the Bentley and Aston (remodelled evoque :-))


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