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Post by siw1800 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:50 am

Hi Guys,

Anyone know what happens if you have had a car off the road for 35 years. There was no sorn when it was last used and has sat in a barn since, doing something with it now, will dvla be after a fine for not sorning it?

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Post by willholderogri » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:37 am

No it will be no problem it was off the road before sorn came into force and is therefore not needed until its under new ownership (its in the DVLA directions if you read it all the way through you will see the ref )


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Post by TrevorG » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:08 am

I completely forgot about my scimitar when I broke my back, so it sat for three years without sorn being renewed (law has now changed and sorn needn't be renewed each year). When I realised I rang DVLA explaining that there was no way the car could have been on the road, they were very helpful and updated the tax coding while on the phone, so I think you'll be okay.
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Post by David Tew » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:33 am

As Will says.

It's also worth considering whether it is still registered with the DVLA, especially if you want to retain the original number, as any car not taxed since the DVLA was computerised in 1983 might not be.

You're on the cusp at 35 years but if you have a V5 (of any colour) rather than the old log book you should be OK. However, it's worth checking with the DVLA. As Trevor says, they are very helpful.

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Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:49 am

Yes, I'd agree with Will, if it was off the road, untaxed, before SORN came in, there was no requirement to declare SORN (unless the vehicle changed hands)


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Post by siw1800 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:53 pm

David Tew wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:33 am
As Will says.

It's also worth considering whether it is still registered with the DVLA, especially if you want to retain the original number, as any car not taxed since the DVLA was computerised in 1983 might not be.

You're on the cusp at 35 years but if you have a V5 (of any colour) rather than the old log book you should be OK. However, it's worth checking with the DVLA. As Trevor says, they are very helpful.

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That is exactly what we are hoping to do put the number on my Mothers car. So I guess it is fingers crossed. We have the V5 but she moved 14 years ago and as it had been off the road, didn't change the address, I mailed DVLA and they said send the V5 in to change address, she should get a V5c then hopefully a computer change of reg to her car???


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Post by halfpenny » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:00 pm

You will need an mot for a reg swop



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Post by Alan SS1 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:44 pm

halfpenny wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:00 pm
You will need an mot for a reg swop
that was usually what happened. but if the car is MoT exempt (over forty years old) then what happens ? :?

migh tbe a bigger can o worms?


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Post by halfpenny » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:57 pm

AFAIK, you need an mot for reg swop even if nominally mot exempt. Proves the car exists.



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Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:52 pm

halfpenny wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:00 pm
You will need an mot for a reg swop
Strictly speaking, you haven’t needed an MOT to transfer a reg for a long time - but that doesn’t apply in this case as it’s been off the road for so long.


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