HEATED WINDSCREENS

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HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by David Lanceley » Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:50 pm

I've started a new topic on the supply of heated windscreens.

A new shipment has just arrived in the UK so we now have stock of all types of screens - but possibly not for long. I'll be contacting those who have pre-ordered or are waiting individually over the next day or so.

Anyone else interested please contact me by e-mail david@lanceley.com

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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by David Lanceley » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:43 pm

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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by td99 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:16 pm

Anybody fitted these themselves?
If so, what's the procedure...and consumables...?


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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by Ben Kenobe » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:02 pm

Getting out - easy theres a kind of cheesewire you can get that just pulls through the black bonding material (which then needs surfacing - all the same depth, the shallower the better).

Putting in - glued - not as easy as you would think.

Couldn't begin to say what are the best materials - the best I'd say are Dinitrol because I've used them, Dinitrol 500 combined with a 520 adhesion promoter on the glass, not sure what would be best on fibreglass as a primer and you must have one I've only ever done this on metal cars, perhaps you could ask Dinitrol. Hardest part is getting the glue correct on the glass - needs to be a pyramid shape around the entire outer edge twice as high as wide and it needs to be even all the way around - if you're no good at doing silicone in the bathroom don't waste your time trying this one !!

If you plan on doing this manually as in no specialist mounting gear then it's a two man job, don't try it alone, glass handling tools are needed because you can't touch the edges of the glass once the glue is in place and you've got to be fairly quick, the glass must go in straight and in the right place, shouldn't be pushed in too deep etc etc - oh and then you've got to hold it there and stop it slipping out of place - perhaps a third person to add tape from the glass to the roof in a few places. Then wait three or four hours before moving the car.



Personally - having done this - never again - cheaper to pay somebody that does it for a living in both time and lack of stress.


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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by scimjim » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:28 pm

Just removed mine with a scalpel (which showed how poorly it was originally fitted) and plan on refitting it with tiger seal. It's not like a bonded screen in a metal bodied car where it becomes structural, the body tub flexes and moves, so you want a sealant that will allow some movement.


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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by Ben Kenobe » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:30 pm

Gaffa tape ...


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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by philhoward » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:37 pm

Just a note to be aware of - when collecting a screen, Dan did mention about using a primer around the edge of the screen to seal it (as it is laminated). The same primer you apparently run around the apeture before applying the actual "glue".


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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by derekoss » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:51 pm

I remember getting Mini screens fitted years ago. Similar rubber/glass setup.

The screens were fitted dry (new rubber if at all hard) then they ran round with a black sealant through a thin nozzle. Both on glass and body. Looked like Sikaflex stuff.

A special tool was used to fit the chrome insert.

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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by Ben Kenobe » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:11 pm

Can't do that on a small scim - the screens bonded.

Word of caution - if you have a prepared bed of the previous adhesive - i.e one that you just prepared after removing a screen you don't prime it, the frame in the car is only ever primed if it is fresh from paint, has exposed paint (in which case all previous adhesive needs to go) etc etc.

I listed only what I used which is the glue itself and the adhesion promoter, as Phil says there is then another primer that must be used to do the final prep on the glass before fitting this goes on the adhesive contact area and the outside - it is this that I can't advise on which would be best, what I used probably wouldn't be suitable.


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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by td99 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:25 pm

Thanks all, think I'll consult a specialist glass fitter...
Useful info anyhow to check that "specialist" knows what he's doing.
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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by Corky » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:56 pm

The guy who did mine had all manner of chemicals that were used to clean and prime both the screen and the aperture. The bonding agent was very similar to Tiger Seal. Having seen it done professionally, I don't think I'd attempt to do it myself, especially on the racer. The last thing you want is it to fall out under heavy braking.


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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by greeny » Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:00 am

Corky wrote:The guy who did mine had all manner of chemicals that were used to clean and prime both the screen and the aperture. The bonding agent was very similar to Tiger Seal. Having seen it done professionally, I don't think I'd attempt to do it myself, especially on the racer. The last thing you want is it to fall out under heavy braking.


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Re: HEATED WINDSCREENS

Post by toomanysabres » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:08 am

Professionals often use an electric motor powered glue gun to get an even bead on the glass which is difficult to do with a normal hand squeezed one and they normally use large suckers to lift the glass into place. Also and I got this from the beemer instuctions is a couple of strips of wide tape to attach it to the roof to stop it drifting down until its fully seated. Might just be because its a large heavy window though.


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