SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by nickkeyser » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:01 pm

Are the flanges for this other company to fabricate the manifolds onto?


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:54 pm

10 flanges cut to RST gasket pattern as it uses larger round ports, which make for an easier and stronger fabrication.
1 or 2 flanges will be used for mock up.
I'll be having 2 over chassis manifolds (and 1 system) made for me.
I think Tony Broom is having one for his Sabre with it's Ferriday 1.8CVH currently fitted with mild steel chopped and changed Sportex.

Never heard back from Jim though, care to give him a poke Nick?

The spare flanges will be available to purchase by whoever, and they can take their car along to have the manifold built to spec.

All work done by AA Silencers in Stafford.


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by richardvernon » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:57 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:I shall be sending up a dummy rig (chassis, part tub and fresh mounted 1600) to use.



They are happy to make the system up to follow the normal route out of the chassis if that is what's preferred.
Phil,

Were there any plans on having a larger diameter, better flowing, single downpipe quoted for to match up to the XR3i manifold discussed earlier in the thread whilst the chassis, engine etc was up there?


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:20 pm

Wasn't intending to. Would need to get the flanges cut for the downpipe, but could be done.


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by scimjim » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:32 pm

without exact dimensions, I'd say you'll definitely need to remove your heater motor and modify your inner wing, then put a hole in your passenger footwell to route the downpipes :-)


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by richardvernon » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:01 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:Wasn't intending to. Would need to get the flanges cut for the downpipe, but could be done.
I would be extremely interested in this as you would/will have the engine and chassis up there and ,I assume, that with the single downpipe design an "off the shelf item" could be produced.Maybe?(with young kids I really struggle for the time to nip out for the odd day to have things fitted :( )

And I assume it would need a few more interested people for it to be viable.All efforts much appreciated by the way :)


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by reliant-reviver » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:07 pm

Right, calling all potentially interested peoples.

Next week I'm dragging an SS1 up to Stafforshire to be worked on. I've had 10 head flanges cut, and 5 downpipe flanges.
I can have whatever you want built up, there is no batch quantity, minimum order or what have you, each will be pretty much built to spec.
The one quote I have had from Mark at AA silencers is £450-£500 plus vat for the full system. 4 branch over chassis manifold, joint under footwel, into centre box, over axle, joint, into back box.
I haven't put him on the spot for prices on individual components, as it is rather difficult to estimate such things! I'm happy to let them get on with it and cost it up accordingly, rather than work to a figure.
This will be as cheap as you will find anywhere, if you are in, you're in, if not, bah humbug!

I'm intending so far to have the following made

setup 1300 block with head

cast iron manifold. 1 downpipe, plus full 2" system with centre and back box. Built for low noise and usability. For moi.

Setup spacing the head up to 1600 height.

1 downpipe for cast iron manifold. (RICHARD VERNON)

1 4 branch manifold leading into full 2.25" system with centre and back box. Built with good performance in mind. also for moi

1 4 branch manifold as above only. For Tony Broom, but I'll need to confirm this.

Don't worry it's not going to be a case of me turning round and saying, you owes me eleventy hundred pounds for something, we will have a better idea of costs after the first couple are fabricated. I'm confident the final prices will all be very reasonable, or I shall intervene before things go ahead.
Personally I NEED an exhaust system that works, I WANT the benefit of stainless steel and it's extended lifetime. I don't want to buy sub standard sh*t from the dealers, it just doesn't warrent the outlay. In the long run, it's a very wortwhile investment.
This is an oppertunity to have an exhaust built off your car, on my totally stock galv SS1,
without the problems of taking your car to a workshop etc. Once I've had my stuff done, I don't intend on taking a car back there.

So if you are interested, please let me know, either on here, or via email.


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by richardvernon » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:15 pm

Phil,
Just to confirm I am still very interested in the down pipe.Can I also confirm it will be larger diameter and hopefully better flowing -siamesed top?-for the later XR3i bunch of bananas type cast iron manifold discussed earlier in this thread(i.e. not the OE SS1 or Roger's XR3i type).Plenty of room for confusion with these manifolds :lol:.

PS. If the top flange turns out to be an issue, and there aren't anymore interested parties to justify job lot manufacture, I would consider buying a used stainless downpipe and chopping the top flange off that if necessary .Did consider that I could chop the flange off my current ss downpipe but my SS1 has to earn its keep weekly.Cheers.


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by reliant-reviver » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:58 pm

Richard, I have the same type of manifold as Alan posted on page 3.

I've had 5 flanges cut to an original ford gasket. Primaries will be sized to suit, siamesed and then out into a larger single pipe, size of that is up to you.


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by richardvernon » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:54 pm

Phil,

Yep , thats the same one I've got. Rest of my system is 2.25" so that would do me fine ideally. As the rest of my system id non standard I will obviously sort the join . I just need a bit of length going under the car - just enough to get it going along the same longitudinal axis as the OE SS1 exhaust and I can take it from there.

Was pondering the slight height block difference of the 1900 tall block cvh v the standard cvh and any consequences but I think its better I adjust things as necessary when fitting rather than try and predict any effect on exhaust run through the chassis aperture -less clearance above but more room for it to move with the inreased torque. Maybe. And throw in engine/ gearbox mount sag and the vague recollection that I have 'adjusted' engine height before in order to fit a K&N filter :roll:.


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by reliant-reviver » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:56 pm

RV, email me direct and we'll discuss 1900's..... I may have an idea.


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by richardvernon » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:23 pm

Phil, You have me intrigued.Can you pm me your direct email address. Its a long story involving work PC, Home PC, defunct but not quite extinct old email addresses etc ............


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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:56 pm

Videos sent to me this evening 8)



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Re: SS1 1600 exhuast manifold

Post by scimjim » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:02 am

my cat could take a better vid - nice exhaust though :-)


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