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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by tanuki » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:03 pm

DARK STAR wrote:A battery in good health should give nearer 13 volts, even more if freshly charged.
It certainly seems yours is dead, as you say it happens suddenly with modern batteries.
The original earth point is not very far from the battery so if you put it in the right place you should be able to connect with the same cable.
The cable is currently connected to a bolt on the engine (driver side, red arrow below) and might be a bit short to travel all the way to the battery compartement (?)
I'll check that tomorrow at the office :wink: It might have been modified when they welded that stupid rack and put the battery right on top of the radiator :evil:
I probably can move the connector to the other bolt (green arrow) or even to the bolt on the rack itself (blue arrow) ?

I wonder how easy it may be to get rid of this bloody frame that they have welded on top of the radiator :roll:
Actually I may leave it in place if the metal frames that serve as guides for the airflow would fit underneath - I have them fortunately -
I could even fit a battery in the normal compartment and have two batteries ready for action :lol: :lol:

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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by DARK STAR » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:10 pm

I am far from expert on the SE5 engine compartment, it's rather different from the Coupé.
I think it would be preferable to connect the cable to the motor if that is how it's usually done, there is then presumably a, or preferably several, connection(s) to the chassis and thence to major electrical components.
The cooling air management is similar to the SE6/a/b so I would say if your extra battery mounting brackets don't stop you bolting the shroud onto the top of the radiator you can leave them alone.
Otherwise there is always my Final Solution - the angle grinder ;)


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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by tanuki » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:42 pm

I have been going to the local shops (Carrefour & Feu Vert) during my lunch break to see what they have to offer, and what price they sell :roll:
Beside the Carrefour & Feu Vert brands - what the hell are the batteries that they re-brand I have no clue - all I found were Bosch & Varta.
The prices appear to be twice what you can get on the internet - for the exact same model of course - :shock: ... so internet it will be :lol:

Now Oscaro's website suggests for the Scimitar - yer, I was surprised to find an entry for Reliant / Scimitar on their website - Varta B24
which is a 45Ah battery ... I notice that the B32/34 are also widely mentionned in some of the threads here, but since the batteries that I have at the
moment on both cars are 70Ah ... I am wondering if it's wise to go back for a 45Ah :? any advice from you guys ?

There were Varta E11 and E43 at Feu Vert, but at a stupid price of ~ 150/165 euros ... while the same is sold ~80/85 on the net - even through Amazon
with just a 9 euros shipment cost :wink: -

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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by Oldconn » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:56 pm

Fred, that Varta is the same spec. as the Exide I have on my 6A. 45 Ah is not a lot, which is why most of us have uprated alternators. Mine is rated at 45 amps, which I reckon is the absolute minimum you need; a lot of guys have gone higher, even up to 60 amps. Incidentally, my battery cost 90€ delivered from Allbatteries.com. :)


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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:05 pm

The problem is the size of the space to fit the battery, which limits the size of battery you can use. I suspect that's why your current battery is mounted in a non-standard place. If you don't mind altering your battery tray, then you may be able to go bigger.


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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by DARK STAR » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:16 pm

I altered my battery tray (GTC), not sure how much room there is on an SE5.
I bought a 60 ah Artec battery from Yakarouler, it was 70-odd euros, seems ok.
If you need to order by model number, Yakarouler don't list Scimitars, what a surprise, but Opel Calibras are the same!


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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by tanuki » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:32 pm

Thanks guys for the extra links to those sites !
Given the thread opened today by Peter I will give it a second thought before going Varta :?

Roger, the reason why the battery is located in such an awkward place is just because
a french mechanic who was asked to replace the battery had this brilliant idea :roll:
while he could not source a battery small enough to fit at the proper place :evil:
I assume this was done shortly after Chris Leroy had put back the engine in Purple,
yet before he had refitted the side frames and wheel holder ... when Chris came to pick up
the car it was already too late :cry:

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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by Mvtgs1 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:31 am

Hi Fred,
If you need a new batterie for your Scimitar in France, have a look at the one's used in small japanese sport car as honda crx for example.
The size is ok.
The last one I have bought came from the web site batteriemegastore.fr, the référence is Alphaline 54524 and they are very efficient.
The car is working since 2 years with no problem.
Hope it will help you
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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by tanuki » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:26 pm

Merci Xavier :wink:
One more site ... which proved useful to compare the characteristics of the various models :D
I made a summary of the information related to Alphaline/Exide/Varta batteries in the range 45 Ah to 74 Ah
(focused on the Atype connectors and excluded batteries above 100 euros to get a short list)
Here goes ... if it could be useful to other french Scimitarists in need of a new battery :mrgreen:

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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by tanuki » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:19 pm

Now that it's got its new (Exide) battery, Purple has joined the exhibition in Vincennes last week-end 8)
It's been a real pleasure driving it after a few weeks of 'rest' in the office basement ... I almost forgot about its loud sound :mrgreen:
Love it !!!
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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by tanuki » Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:42 am

After a long winter period - well, until last week it was technically still winter over here :evil: - Purple is at the garage to get ready for its controle technique (MOT) which I should have done 2 months ago :oops:

I need to replace front wheel bearings as well as track rod ends in order to ensure that steering won't be a cause of MOT failure ...
After browsing through several threads on the forum and trying to match with what's offered on the net, I found the following references:
(btw SE5 '71 model)
- QUINTON HAZELL QWB170C for the bearings
- QUINTON HAZELL QR1153S for the track rod ends
Does that sound correct, and do you recommend a supplier, beside the obvious GW/QRG :wink: ?

Thanks for any advice !
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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by AJL Electronics » Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:21 pm

Why do you need to replace the front wheel bearings? Barring abuse, they tend to be very hardy, just requiring adjustment to give a tiny amount of play when rocking the wheel top to bottom.


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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by tanuki » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:49 pm

Hello Andy,
sorry for the late reply - I just came back from LMC last evening -
I am not quite sure what's wrong with the bearing - it's only one of them -
but my mechanic is the "don't change a part unless it's clearly faulty" type of guy,
so I tend to trust his judgement when he mentioned that the RHS bearing needs a replacement :wink:
The LHS track rod end is in bad shape too, but apart from this the steering rack looks fine - phew -

Btw, i have been taught that the steering rack comes from Austin (Maxi or Princess ?) and that's it's simply mounted
the other way around from the Austin setup ? I have run into another reference on infopart.org: 18G 8043
but no mention of Austin in the list of models - just MG, Reliant & Saab :? -
oh well, I guess this is the joy of internet quests :wink:

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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by scimjim » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:23 pm

No - modified Princess rack is SE6.

The SE5 is a LHD Austin 1800 (landcrab) rack - upside down and modified.

no need to go on internet quests (buying the wrong stuff usually) if it's already been identified properly and documented in Alterpart :-)


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Re: La vie en Purple

Post by tanuki » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:44 pm

Thanks Jim for the lead 8)
I had noticed 'alterparts' a few times while browsing through threads and for some reason thought it was some sort of internet resource database.
I have just realized now that it's a booklet readily available from the club's shop :roll: Ordered one just now :mrgreen:
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