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Post by DARK STAR » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:37 am

Yes, I was impressed 8)

I need them ideally this week, ordinary post should do.
Test next week, I think everything else is ok :|


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Post by DARK STAR » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:34 pm

Brake shoes arrived this morning, thanks Mark.
I got one side fitted, with the usual inconveniences -
I jacked the car up, took off the wheel, then remembered my arc light was in the pit ... under the car.
So I went and pinched my son's from his workshop store.
I cleaned and painted the brake, forgot to take a pic but perhaps the second one will be even prettier.
Then I tried to put the drum back, the brake shoes were much wider than the drum.
Of course the hand brake was adjusted up fully - both sides.
And the other side was not accessible.
So I disconnected the handbrake cable.
It was still a struggle, I sanded off the rusty edge of the drum and chamfered the liners.
Aligned it carefully, then pressed it on with my feet, back braced against the garage wall.
Someone will now tell me an easy way to do it, no doubt 8)

For the electric choke, wiring it up correctly has resulted in a system which works reasonably well.
It is very difficult to adjust because while you are doing it the choke and then the bloody engine heat up, negating the effect.
For future reference, the little screw hidden behind the choke adjusts the cold fast-idle speed and turning the round body clockwise increases the bimetallic spring effect so the choke butterflies stay open and the fast-idle stays on the cam longer.

Epilogue - apparently the Chronopost site has been pirated because I received a call from a foreign gentleman who said that because the delivery of the package from Mark was half an hour late (it wasn't) I had a right to a refund. He didn't get as far as asking for my bank details and account codes before I hung up :wink:
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Post by gtcse8 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:19 pm

Bloody hell Chris you don`t half make things difficult.
Before Fitting the shoes one must back off all cables and shoe adjusters, and these shoes are new so larger than the old ones this is why they need bedding in after fitting.
I have not yet had notification of the delivery?.
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Epilogue - apparently the Chronopost site has been pirated because I received a call from a foreign gentleman who said that because the delivery of the package from Mark was half an hour late (it wasn't) I had a right to a refund. He didn't get as far as asking for my bank details and account codes before I hung up
WTF?


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Post by DARK STAR » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:37 pm

Shoe adjusters? Is that the square shaft sticking out of the back?
It's so long since I touched a brake drum I've forgotten.
I did think to slacken off the cable - but couldn't.

Delivery was 11h50 french time, they advised 11h30 - 12h30 so spot on.
The foreign gentleman obviously had my phone number and name from the site of Chronopost who handled the delivery at this end.
But 1/ Chronopost would never ring anyone to offer them a refund
2/ I didn't pay the postage, you did 8) , have they offered you a refund?
3/ the package wasn't delivered late


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Post by gtcse8 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:48 pm

The 1/4" shaft sticking out the back IS the adjuster, slacken it off before attempting fitting new shoes :lol:
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The foreign gentleman obviously had my phone number and name from the site of Chronopost who handled the delivery at this end.
As I don`t have YOUR phone number I submitted mine in the booking system :?: so how the F :?: did they get yours. :?: :?: :?: to call you.


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Post by DARK STAR » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:21 pm

:?: :?: :?: indeed !
I could possibly be in the Chronopost database ?
It seems they have a serious security problem, must remember never to pay them with a bank card.

I wondered what the square shaft was for (but only noticed it when it was too late).
The second side should be easy :oops:


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Post by gtcse8 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:49 pm

I suppose MY main issue here is that you got the parts WHEN you should have got them, ie in time for MOT. :o
And "PLEASE" Chris look up the correct way to adjust the rear brakes once you have the car out of the present position :idea: :roll:


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Post by DARK STAR » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:04 pm

Yes, delivery was fine.
The job is now looking better, I have new rear brakes but the handbrake still isn't sorted.
Seems you need to jack up both sides at once to do it :cry:
Anyway the new shoes are on, all tidied up and the other drum put back.
Checking the adjuster this time it only seems to have two positions and it was already on the smallest so the drum was still a tight fit.
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Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:31 pm

The adjuster has multiple positions - I've scribbled on your photo below to illustrate:

As you turn the square key on the back, that screws in or out the cone in the middle (indicated in yellow). That causes the adjuster wedges to move in or out (indicated in red), moving the shoes apart or together. The cone has flats on it, giving you click stop positions, one per quarter turn.
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Post by AJL Electronics » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:36 pm

I need to check, but I thought that the shoe return springs go behind the shoes. You also have the top rear spring in the wrong hole.


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Post by gtcse8 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:54 pm

Chris sorry to tell you but the top inner retaining spring is through the wrong slot, the one at the top left.
It should be through the top hole and hooks over the lever.

Andy is correct too, the bottom adjuster spring should be behind the shoes to pull them INTO the adjuster slots.


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Post by DARK STAR » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:00 pm

Springs are as I found them (and same both sides) I wondered what the extended bit was for :roll:
I'll correct them tomorrow, though they seem to work ok as is.

Thanks Roger, didn't realise the square/rectangular rod was conical.


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Post by gtcse8 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:02 pm

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Thanks Roger, didn't realise the square/rectangular rod was conical.
Its the INTERNAL part that Jacks the shoes apart.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:58 pm

Chris, here's a photo of one dismantled, to show what I'm referring to. You can see how the central cone screws in or out, pushing the two opposing wedges apart (or allowing them to move together), thus moving the brake shoes either together or apart, and adjusting the brakes.
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Post by DARK STAR » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:30 pm

Been too busy to post, but the car passed its control technique no problem so apparently I adjusted the brakes correctly.
Bit of a mystery, I read the pages of instructions without understanding much of it so I obviously guessed right 8)
Now I can sell the beast with a clear conscience.
Perhaps I should put the price up ...


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