South of France Scimitar Sortie - 26/27 September 2015

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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by landschrabbler » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:22 pm

Just a little appetizer :D

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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by French Coupé » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:59 am



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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by DARK STAR » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:49 pm

Amazing!
I saw the photographers but never imagined they'd post pics of the Scimitars.

I'm still not organised but here are a few photos of the first stop at the Museum Memory of the Route Nationale 7.
This is a fascinating little museum with a lively guided tour and very atmospheric videos, highly recommended.

As you can see, seven of the eight cars entered made the trip, which was superbly arranged by Phil & Ros Mason.

More to follow, and it will all eventually be on the website :wink:
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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by DARK STAR » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:52 pm

They weren't ALL yellow ...
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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by DARK STAR » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:54 pm

Shame Jörg's SE5a was missing ...
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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by landschrabbler » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:07 pm

Yes, shame there was no SE5... that really hurt :cry:
Ted commented it with "who said lightning never strikes the same place twice", but I know someone who knows it actually does: Phil :D
So here's my report:
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That's where it all started: the Musée Mémoire de la Nationale 7. All cars (well, except mine... :? ) have already arrived:
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We did a little tour de visite, and interestingly enough the museum is the home of a... threewheeler :shock:
Not Reliant, but (attention!) all electric! And that was 1942:
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It is a Paris-Rhône VPR-2 "Baby Rhône" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris-Rh%C3%B4ne - interestingly enough that this car can be found in the German and the English Wikipedia, but not in French...).
Another interesting piece in the exhibition:
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On our way to the "degustation des vins":
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Next stop our hotel where we had a nice dinner.
The next morning, after some water and oil checks on the cars, we started our trip to the Mont Ventoux:
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The obligatory stop for group photos - the first one with Mr. Scimitarfrance.net himself :P
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Zoom in:
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One uphill:
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And with the happy owners:
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This gives a whole new meaning to "break de chase":
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Then we started the climb up to Mont Ventoux.
That gave me the chance for my first ride in a Sabre - the "scimitar sabre mystérieuse", with a broken exhaust certainly the loudest car of group.
But it seems like someone was really "jinxed" for this weekend - halfway up the engine started overheating :o
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After a short stop for water cooldown and re-fill we continued the climb and finally we could see our destination:
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Up on top we could finally enjoy the view:
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Well, almost :? and it was freezing cold... and after a minute the situation changed from
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to
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as the Mont Ventoux got covered by clouds. But: still happy faces:
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A bright color shines always:
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For the trip downhill I decided to jump into Fred's SE6 "custard" - with the result that it didn't start :o talk about "jinxed"...
Fortunately the fuel tank decided to announce with a "bonk" that he needed some air - opening the filler cap got the pressure back to normal.

No further problems on the way downhill apart from smelly brakes - at least for us.
Chris had to recover from boiling brake fluid on his "freins de merde Lookheed"... I guess he will report later.

After a nice lunch it was already time to say good bye - though for some of us it would take longer then expected to get back on the road!
Talk about "jinxed": when Fred drove me back to my car, his engine stalled again. We made it to my car, but then "custard" wouldn't start no more.
Trying to find out the problem...
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...we got company by a group of French Zündapp owners on a road trip...
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First we thought the problem was the ignition, most likely an overheated coil. But then we figured out that the carburetor behaved weird - to start the engine we had to manually open the choke plate. And then it would stall every time the automatic gearbox was shifting into gear. We suspect that this cable on the back of the carburetor has something to do with it - it looks like it is coming from the automatic gearbox for whatever function it has...
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But in the end Viv jumped behind the wheel and forced the car back on the road - and a few kilometers later we finally said good bye.

From there on for me an uneventful drive back home - apart from a GPS that for whatever reason decided to guide me through the centre of Avignon (at least I had a glimpse on the bridge...) and the fact that the roads would have been such a nice ride in the Scimitar... but good news came today that my car will soon be back on the road!

Thanks to Phil and Ros for preparing this "sortie" and to all participants for a very nice and interesting first SouthoFrance meeting - looking forward to the next one, then hopefully with the green beast 8)

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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by DARK STAR » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:16 pm

Great report Jörg.
Glad (sort of) I wasn't the only one with difficulties.
The brakes recovered on cooling down, but the engine which was behaving strangely is now consuming water as much as petrol, I think the problem is more serious than a valve guide ...

Your route through Avignon was probably on the 'inner ring road', I very nearly did this but remembered from past experience that you need to turn off the official route and go by Pontet (to go to Antibes!)

I have some scenic pics from the Ventoux without (much) cloud, I'll post them later.


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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by Roger Pennington » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:07 pm

landschrabbler wrote: First we thought the problem was the ignition, most likely an overheated coil. But then we figured out that the carburetor behaved weird - to start the engine we had to manually open the choke plate. And then it would stall every time the automatic gearbox was shifting into gear. We suspect that this cable on the back of the carburetor has something to do with it - it looks like it is coming from the automatic gearbox for whatever function it has...
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Sounds as though perhaps the choke was out of adjustment, and the plates were shut when not required?

The cable at the back of the carb in the photo is the kickdown cable - it's supposed to have a kink in it like that, it introduces some slack and ensures that kickdown only happens at full throttle. It shouldn't make any difference to starting, and shouldn't affect putting it into gear, as long as it has got some slack.


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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by DARK STAR » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:15 pm

I've just remembered there is another thread which provides the background to all this ...
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Perhaps the mods could merge them please?


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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by DARK STAR » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:46 am

Here we are at the wine tasting ... it was VERY tasty.
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Re: South of France Sortie 2015

Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:34 pm

DARK STAR wrote:I've just remembered there is another thread which provides the background to all this ...
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Perhaps the mods could merge them please?

Done! :D


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Re: SouthoFrance Scimitar Sortie '15

Post by DARK STAR » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:34 pm

Thanks Roger, that's great :clap:


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Re: SouthoFrance Scimitar Sortie '15

Post by landschrabbler » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:26 pm

Le sortie des Scimitars...




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Re: SouthoFrance Scimitar Sortie '15

Post by DARK STAR » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:31 pm

BRILLIANT :hurrah:


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Re: SouthoFrance Scimitar Sortie '15

Post by DARK STAR » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:28 pm

After the wine tasting Phil led us on a tortuous route (possibly the right one) to the Hotel Montmirail between Gigondas and Vacqueyras.
This was an inspired choice, a beautiful setting, comfortable rooms and an exceptional restaurant, plus the friendly and efficient service.
Not surprisingly, the place was full, but we were early enough to park all the Scimitars close together in the forest car park.
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