Vertical link/stub axle nut and washer

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Vertical link/stub axle nut and washer

Post by Old and Slow » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:22 pm

Here's a picture with the nut and washer visible;
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Can't see whether the washer is distorted, though!


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Post by Dennis Nicholas » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:51 pm

I have found a larger dia. and thicker washer but had to drill out hole to size and am having to file a bit thinner so that the nylock bit of nut engages with the threads :D :cry: :D what a grind! picture to follow


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Post by Old and Slow » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:09 pm

Hope it works! Sounds to me like to ought to be some kind of "top hat" shaped washer, but the assembly diagram shows a flat washer. I wonder if case-hardening the steel washer would reduce distortion? Also, I'd be interested to learn whether torquing the nut up to the specified figure causes distortion, or whether the nut been over-tightened at some time in the past?
Please tell us how it goes - thanks.


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Post by Dennis Nicholas » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:06 pm

New washer ready.
Filed down to 0.179 inch thick. It is a larger diameter. 0ld washer was I/D 0.506", O/D 1.115", thick 0.091" . Nut is 1/2" UNF (0.7475 Across flats and 0.8545" across the points.....the stub hole is 0.8215"
The outer chamfer nearly filed away.
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Still nice and beefy
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centre hole just slightly larger than stub thread and O/D bigger.
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Nylon insert in nut should just fully engage with thread and more so once torqued up.....will make sure I check for tightness several times after running.
Washer has been given full treatment....shot blasted and hydrate 80....all items will receive final coat of POR15 (as I can't get my preferred better KBS Coatings Rust Seal any more).
I found the washer in one of my tins of old nuts/bolts/washers. Just got to find its mate for the O/S overhaul.
Note to self....look at investing in a small surface grinder.....this is the latest of many washers/shims ground down/filed by hand....horrible job and so time consuming.

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Vertical link/stub axle nut and washer

Post by Old and Slow » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:04 pm

Well, that shouldn't bend!!
I hope it works OK after all that filing.


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Post by Dennis Nicholas » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:08 pm

A chance remark, somewhere, gave a possible explanation to this small mystery/problem.
The remark was "well the nylon part of the locknut did not reach the thread so I just put in a thiner washer"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Penny has dropped......there are T nuts and P nuts. I got a new nut from Rimmer Bros. and it was indeed a Nylock T nut.
The Nylock T nut is 12.3mm (0.48) whereas the P full nut is 14.8mm. (0.56").
I just happened to have P type in my box of 1/2" 20 tpi UNF Nylocks.
So it looks like a previous owner had used wrong nut and a too thin washer.

So you need to use the thinner T type nuts and you can get a good thick washer on. My washer ended up 0.179" (4.5mm) and thread of stub just reaches slightly beyond the nylon.

Anyone know an original washer thickness; or can measure one??


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