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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:29 am

What's peoples general thoughts on non original engine swaps?

i'm more than seriously considering swapping out my V6 for a ..................... diesel :shock:

I love my Scimitar but it's not economical and now the novelty has worn off find myself thinking i would rather forgo that nice V6 sound and have a more economical engine in there, the plan being i would use it more often.

I have acquired a 130PS 1.9TDi VW golf which has accident damage and a notchy gearbox so basically a scrapper

performance wise there wouldn't be much in it, but economy wise it would be light years in front of the V6, i've done a bit of research and i think i can fit the engine to an RX8 box.

I've already done a VW TDi conversion from a V4 cologne so i have that experience to help me, i've measured it up and there are a few issues - turbo is close to the steering column but i think overall it'll go in without any body mods

so what do we think? :lol:



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Post by willholderogri » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:47 am

LPG the original motor


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Post by Joe. » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:02 am

There have been a few diesel Scimitars conversions in the past, though there don't seem to be many on the road and in day to day use... :w . For the sake of the enviroment perhaps thats a good thing!

With the upcoming ULEZ restrictions on Diesel cars I'd think carefully about its future use. With a modern engine will it still be classed as historic vehicle for MOT purposes? Will changing the fuel category on the V5 present problems?

Having to pay a fee for not being Euro 6 compiant might turn out to be more expensive than just buying petrol in the long run!

Personally I think the whole concept of converting to Diesel is bit out of date, I'm looking forward to seeing the first Electric or hybrid engined GTE!



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Post by Nick » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:29 pm

I am minded to agree with Joe. Modern Euro 6 diesels are very complex. Older ones have emissions problems. LPG sounds good.

My Coupe would do 30 mpg on a run, as will most Essex powered cars with a properly set up 38DGAS. Unless you do 10k miles plus p.a. I would stay with this. Do you have overdrive?


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Post by scimjim » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:21 pm

I think there was an electric GTE before a diesel?

My BMW/Omega turbo diesel SE5a was in daily use until the clutch went.



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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:35 pm

changing the fuel type doesn't affect the historic class, the issue i have with LPG is my local station doesn't stock it so i'd have to find one that does, also the tank takes up a lot of boot space that's handy to have. I have got a full LPG kit from an old series land rover but i just don't fancy it

i do agree diesel is a limit lifespan fuel, but i would be able to pull out the TDi and convert it to electric in 10 or 20 years when they price diesel off the road but at the moment electric conversions are an issue with the high battery price

how was the in cabin noise on yours Jim? I've done a fair few Transit petrol to Di conversions and thats the worst part the cabin noise goes up a fair bit.



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Post by scimjim » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:59 pm

A straight through 3” exhaust is hardly a fair comparison :D



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Post by _Zeb_ » Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:02 pm

And what about the E85? Is it well distributed in Netherland?
Old TDI engines are very noisy (and new ones are well sound proofed).



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Post by _Zeb_ » Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:07 pm

scimjim wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:59 pm
A straight through 3” exhaust is hardly a fair comparison :D
I'm happy to see that mine is not the only one with wipers indicating the speed :wink:



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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:11 pm

_Zeb_ wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:02 pm
And what about the E85? Is it well distributed in Netherland?
not here i'm afraid, i didn't even know what it was so had to google it :D

the VAG 1.9 TDi has got to be one of the best diesel engines of all time they are a bit on the noisy side but go for ever pull like mad and very economical, but also a very short engine and i think i can even fit it in keeping the spare wheel in the original place - which is an advantage too. they also don't need much in the way of cooling so the scimitars small rad would be ok too



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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:13 pm

scimjim wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:59 pm
A straight through 3” exhaust is hardly a fair comparison :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NwqZWnjwgk
That sounds great almost like it's not a diesel 8)



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Post by philhoward » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:26 pm

Is “Diesel Jim” still smoking around Scotland in his Granada 2.5-powered 6a?

A 4-pot diesel just kills the Scimitar image IMHO - if you drop a 5 or 6-pot in there though, at least it’ll sound like it should be there.


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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:45 pm

yeah a 4 pot's just not the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGN4A19JoQM&t=62s :|
i did think about a BMW 2.0 M47 or 3.0 M57 6 pot engine but you don't seem to get many high mileage ones running without issues



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Post by efi_sprintgte » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:51 pm

I loved my 5pot Volvo V70 lump, and that thing went on for ever! Did briefly look into it.. rwd gearboxes seemed hard to find at the time I was looking.


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Post by gtcse8 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:38 pm

CarlosVanDango wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:45 pm
i did think about a BMW 2.0 M47
The M47 is also the Rover 75 implant and I have an MG with over 300.000 on the clock that runs just fine.
My mate has a 6a with a Ford 2.2 turbo fitted and the noise and speed is exactly the same as the Essex.


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