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V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:02 pm
by rebel alliance
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V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:21 pm
by halfpenny
An aluminium gear has a better chance of bedding to an existing steel crank gear. I went this route, and the initial whine has gone after 5k. Slightly mismatched steel gears will not bed in any sensible time frame, so changing them as a new matched pair is probably the best way of obviating whine.

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:29 pm
by RodH
turboscim wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:56 am
Car s o s was Ric Wood not J. W.
Sorry, My mistake.

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:16 pm
by Penfold13
Sarecen wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:17 pm
New gear kit sourced and on its way
Hello,

Just took the fuel pump off and looked at the timing gear and it looks like a fibre gear. Fibre’s clearly a no-no, steel seems to have some issues, so what’s the drawback with alloy?

What gear type did you get Dave and where from?

Thanks,
Chris

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:25 pm
by Nigel Clark
I fitted an alloy camshaft timing gear from Burton on my SE6A nearly 4 years ago. This is just the camshaft gear and runs with the original steel gear on the crank.

It was a little noisy at first but quietened down after a few hundred miles. Since then, it's covered almost 15k miles with no problems.

Nigel

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:45 pm
by Penfold13
Thanks Nigel, assuming this one:
https://www.burtonpower.com/steel-camsh ... fv419.html

Is it worth going all out for the QRG kit:
SE4a on Alloy timing gear c/w crank gear and gasket/seal kit £285.00

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:53 pm
by Nigel Clark
No, not the Burton steel gear. They also have an alloy version that runs quieter but for some reason it's not easy to find on their website.

Try phoning and asking for their alloy Essex timing gear, it will be quieter than steel and plenty strong enough for road use.

Nigel

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:16 pm
by Stoddy
Having finally got myself a GTE after a long winter search I'm wanting to check the timing gear on my new purchase. Is it necessary to remove the fuel lines to the fuel pump before removing it or is it simply undo the bolts and move it to one side to inspect?

Thanks

Alan

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:35 pm
by scimjim
That depends how long your fuel lines are :D

The fuel pump arm is quite long, so you will need quite a bit of slack if you don’t want to disconnect the fuel line?

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:09 pm
by Roger Pennington
I think from memory, I just managed to get away without disconnecting the fuel pipes, bearing in mind that the metal feed pipe at the front of the engine is bolted to the front cover bolts, you gain a bit more slack there. However the total length of pipe will still be the deciding factor.

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:12 pm
by Roger Pennington
Nigel Clark wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:53 pm
Try phoning and asking for their alloy Essex timing gear, it will be quieter than steel and plenty strong enough for road use.
Bearing in mind that Ric Wood (and probably others) uses alloy ones in racing, I don't think there's any question mark over their strength :)

(in fact I was watching him racing his 3 litre Capri last weekend)

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:17 pm
by Stoddy
Thanks had a better look this evening. My car has braided hoses fitted and it doesn't look like they will allow much movement so I think I will disconnect so I can remove the pump straight from its mount.

Thanks for your help.

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:48 pm
by scimjim
Unless they’re PTFE lined, I’d replace the braided lines while you’re there.

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:15 pm
by Penfold13
Sorry for the slow response. For the extra effort, I’d remove the lines and take the opportunity to have a quick look at the fuel pump too.

V6 essex timing gear

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:09 pm
by Stoddy
Thanks for your advice. I'm even slower at getting back! I took the pump off this evening and what I'm seeing through the hole is a steel gear with gold coloured teeth. Do I take it from what I've seen that I have fibre timing gear?

I'll check the receipts I got with the car to see if the hoses are PTFE spec. Re the fuel pump, what am I looking for?

Thanks

Alan