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Post by MikeyBikey » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:22 pm

Can anyone recommend after market ECU / supplier

I need one for the V6 omega engine conversion, sparks and lpg injection required.

Canems , the preferred supplier, appear to be in meltdown.

Megasquirt: seems to be after market builders of the ECU rather than the actual supplier

The costs are about £500 so not insignificant....


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Post by scimjim » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:26 pm

Megasquirt is available pre-built, it used to be very “self-build” but not so much now. Still probably cheapest?


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Post by ScimmyMike » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:44 pm

Emerald are supposed to be good but at a price


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Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:48 pm

Nick Keysers is running an MS derivative iirc.

Can recommend Emerald, and would also buy with my own money DTA ( designed and originally developed by a hillclimber...now owned by another hillclimber), Omex if I had a local mapper that knew it, or if speak to Jez Horsham as he's an agent for Syvecs (pro level, more like MoTec) which seems extremely capable.
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Jez Hosham is one of the gurus and lecturers behind the mapping academy where mappers go to learn 'how to'.
A well developed and professionally supported ecu I'd budget for £750-£1000 plus mapping (circa £500).

On locostbuilders a lot use MS and rate a firm local to me, Bailey Performance who have lots of experience with weird projects from bike engined autograssers to v8 road cars and lots of kit cars, so he may be worth a call, his names Dale.
http://baileyperformance.co.uk

I'd be very wary of cheap ecus but if it's your engine, why worry :lol: :lol:


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Post by scimjim » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:53 pm

They come up second hand occasionally too - Emerald K6 plus in original box with connectors etc on locostbuilders yesterday for £675 (£815 RRP).


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Post by BigBobPilot » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:00 pm

I'd either book in to a rolling road that is affiliated with your chosen ECU. Or decide where you want it mapped & speak to them about what ECU's they are familier with. That may help inform your choice.

For you, it might be helpful to find a rolling road that deals with LPG systems and speak to them.


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Post by MikeyBikey » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:48 pm

Ok, thank you all. Clearly misunderstood what these boxes of mystery cost. Work of the mother-in-law devil if you ask me


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Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:52 pm

Not really Mike, set of triple carbs circa 1500-2500 quid


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Post by BigBobPilot » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:03 pm

The most cost effective route would surely be using the Omega ECU and don't bother with LPG.


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Post by scimjim » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:25 pm

I had a piggy-back LPG ECU on my P38 Range Rover, do they exist for the Omega Engine or can you still get them made?


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Post by philhoward » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:26 pm

scimjim wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:25 pm
I had a piggy-back LPG ECU on my P38 Range Rover, do they exist for the Omega Engine or can you still get them made?
LPG ECUs (or emulators if you’re going redneck) don’t care what Petrol ECU they sit on the back of.

Mikey - for using a mixer LPG system you’ve got the wrong engine as I mentioned when we spoke. Fit it as if it’s the full Petrol injected engine, with the original ECU, immobiliser etc, and then add LPG on top as you would with an Omega, otherwise you’ve got little chance of getting it working as it is.

You won’t get the best from this engine with a mixer system either - so go gas injection otherwise you’re strangling a great engine with (effectively) a carburettor...
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The most cost effective route would surely be using the Omega ECU and don't bother with LPG.
Lo- he speaks the truth..


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Post by scimjim » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:44 pm

Two emerald K6 have popped up for sale on Facebook since you posted this Mike!


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Post by MikeyBikey » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:09 pm

philhoward wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:26 pm
scimjim wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:25 pm
I had a piggy-back LPG ECU on my P38 Range Rover, do they exist for the Omega Engine or can you still get them made?
LPG ECUs (or emulators if you’re going redneck) don’t care what Petrol ECU they sit on the back of.

Mikey - for using a mixer LPG system you’ve got the wrong engine as I mentioned when we spoke. Fit it as if it’s the full Petrol injected engine, with the original ECU, immobiliser etc, and then add LPG on top as you would with an Omega, otherwise you’ve got little chance of getting it working as it is.

You won’t get the best from this engine with a mixer system either - so go gas injection otherwise you’re strangling a great engine with (effectively) a carburettor...
BigBobPilot wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:03 pm
The most cost effective route would surely be using the Omega ECU and don't bother with LPG.
Lo- he speaks the truth..

Phil, I took your advice. . The intention is lpg gas injection. I’m not doing mixer. Tbh all this is very new. This is the most I’ve ever concentrated on ecu


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Post by MikeyBikey » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:13 pm

scimjim wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:44 pm
Two emerald K6 have popped up for sale on Facebook since you posted this Mike!
I’ve never used Facebook marketplace....

Ever heard of atp ecu ?


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